Right Wrist Action for the Perfect Golf Swing

by Herman Williams

There is plenty of information on wrist action in the golf swing, including information here on this blog, but most of it deals with the movement of the left wrist or left side in the golf swing. However, this online golf lesson article and accompanying video are dedicated completely to the movement of the right side throughout the swing, specifically the right wrist action for the perfect golf swing with details on 5 key positions to check. Watch the video then check the article below for more detail and photos of some of these 5 key positions.

Step 1: Right Hand Golf Grip – Accent the Trigger Finger

For the right-handed golfer who desires to strike iron shots with a piercing flight and get a divot after the ball, it is imperative to create the right grip positions and consequent wrist positions. Start with a relatively strong left hand grip in which the “V” of the left hand points to the right shoulder, but place the right hand so it covers the left thumb in a more neutral overall position.

Right Hand Golf Grip

Right Hand Golf Grip w Trigger Finger

The right hand “V” will point straight up toward the chin, and the secret is accenting the forefinger position so it looks like a “trigger finger.” Going further, be sure the first joint segment of the finger is pressing into the side of the club in a manner that slightly puts the first knuckle on top of the handle as pictured here. The trigger finger will maintain side pressure on the handle from start all the way to impact.

Step 2: Backswing Takeaway – Dorsiflexion Past Right Thigh

The takeaway actually starts with no wrist action at all. It should be a one piece move that is best performed by letting the right shoulder blade begin moving back.

Dorsiflexion of Right Wrist in Golf Backswing

Dorsiflexion of Right Wrist

This starts a pulling of the right arm and hand as the club is delivered in a “one-piece” move like handing off a football.

Once the hands move beyond the right thigh, the right wrist will start bending back which is classified as “dorsiflexion.” This bending back of the right wrist creates the corresponding “flat left wrist” that is so well known in golf instruction.

Step 3: Right Arm Folds – Tray of Dishes at Top of Backswing

As the backswing continues to progress beyond the right thigh area and the wrist bends back, the right elbow will start to fold. The right elbow actually does not travel very far in a good backswing. It simply folds and points toward the ground as the right palm faces the sky in the classic “waiters’ tray” position at the top.

Right Wrist Position at Top of Golf Backswing

Tray of dishes at top of swing

A couple of key points must be noted in this top position. The weight of the shaft should be resting on the trigger finger, not the thumb. Also the right palm will slightly face away from the player to the right. If the opposite is true,  club resting on the thumb and palm facing the player, then the clubface will be too open and casting is inevitable on the downswing.

 

Step 4: Downswing Drops in the Slot with Right Palm Down

As the downswing starts, the right arm and shoulder simply drop straight down as the feet press firmly into the ground and the knees make a slight lateral shift. There is no body turn at this stage – the right arm can’t drop straight down if the chest starts turning.

Golf Downswing Pre-Impact Position by Herman Williams Golf

Pre-Impact Position – Right Palm Down

This straight down drop is what stores the lag angle at right elbow and right wrist as the club drops on plane into the slot half way down. The secret at this stage of the swing is to feel the pressure against the right hand trigger finger as the right palm faces down at waist-high. From the top of the backswing it feels like hitting your right thigh with the heel of your right hand while your right wrist stays bent all the way back.

At this waist-high downswing position of the hands, the butt of the club should point at the golf ball, toe of club points upward (but not quite straight up) and right palm is facing the ground, or more technically faces the ball on the ground.

Step 5: Impact and Release in the Golf Swing

Prior to this last step, all efforts have been made to store as much lag and backside pressure on the shaft as possible  while keeping the shaft on plane and keeping the clubface square to the swing path. We’re basically at pre-impact just off the right hip with full wrist hinge, right palm down with the shaft hooked by the trigger finger.

Now it’s time to explode. As the hips start to clear and left leg straightens, the right arm will literally unhinge and straighten in a manner similar to driving a nail. Both the right elbow and right wrist straighten. This restores both arms to their full length through the impact zone. If you think about the right arm motion now at its completion, you’ll see the similarity to the nail driving example – grip the hammer squarely for good contact, hinge the wrist and elbow which is our backswing fold, then extend to make solid contact which is our release point.

Golf Swing Release Position by Herman Williams Golf

Overhanded Release Position – Right Over Left

This proper release action requires the right arm to overtake the left arm as it races past and rolls over the left. Hence we describe this as an “overhanded” release in which the right palm continues to face down as it goes past the golf ball. A good image is to try to point the toe of the club at the target as the club exits the impact zone. This sounds like it would hook the ball, but it really works perfectly if you had the proper grip and lag all along.

The result should be a swing which bottoms out beyond the ball with irons to create the proper divot and simply rips the cover off the tee shots with the driver. Watch the video and see if you can get the right wrist action for the perfect golf swing.

Then let me know what you think in the comments section below. Did you pick up more distance, start taking a better divot, kill your slice? Let me know.

{ 157 comments… read them below or add one }

Michael W.

Excellent explanation. My swing issues are flat on takeaway w/ a strong right hand grip, path back into ball too inside w/ a closed club face. The resulting ball flight is mostly snap hooks and severe pushes. I like your review of how you load shaft onto the trigger finger in the backswing with a weakened grip where release on forward swing allows you to get through the ball without the dreaded hook. I see the reasoning on why I need to make the changes to my swing and your Right wrist action article has given me some additional checks/actions I need to include with my golf swing. Can you provide some feedback on what what your feeling as you start to take the club away? i.e. start with hands, arms, wrist, shoulders, hips, as well as what you feel when you transition to the downswing. Thank You,

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Herman Williams

Hi Michael. Glad you found some insights into the grip and trigger finger to help you stop hooking. Actually I think you will get the rest of your answers right here on my site and YouTube channel by looking at my article and video on “How to make a one piece takeaway” and then check out the “Golf Swing Weight Shift” and “Golf Swing Transition.” If you just Google these they should come right up. – Herman

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Miguel Angel

Hello Herman,

Today I just came back to your video about the action of the right hand in golf, one more time (never too many), and I think this is the best video on the internet, and I would like to hightlight some points:

Your language and tips are always (this video tip, but also all other staff on your blog) easy to understand and to the point. But in this video you also gave credit to some other teacher on golf channel, and that shows your personal quality. Congrats.

Some points that are really helpful to me are:

You refer to move your right elbow down. I have made this my transition thought, and it helps me with weight transfer and hip rotation, since I naturally tend to keep my left arm straight.

A secondary transition thought is also yours. Point the butt of the club to the ball at waist height during the downswing.

The action on the right hand on the release help me after transition a lot. My next swing thoughts, after my elbow is close to my ribs is hit it with everything that I have got on my right hand side, while rotating my left arm, and throwing everything, even my right shoulder to the target.

I sincerely like the way you describe the realease, starting from a bent right arm and hand, and finishing in your “clapping released” action.

What I find, on top of your teaching, is that I approach the release with my hip past the target line (pointing left of target), I almost never draw or hook the ball.

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Herman Williams

Beautiful description Miguel … thanks for adding your comments here. I’m sure they will help others understand this even more. – Herman

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Jay vincent

Hi Herman
Are you working with any PGA tour players at this time and or Champion players?

Thanks
Jay

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Herman Williams

No Jay, just regular guys and gals trying to improve their games.

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Ned

Very good stuff. Accurate description. The palm facing down through impact is big with me.. if that’s not happening I will inevitably flip the club through impact … ugghhhh.
I still have trouble fully releasing post impact (my shaft still gets to vertical on my follow through) but I’m getting more aggressive all the time and getting some great compression on all my clubs. Thanks for the site.
Ned

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Herman Williams

Thanks, Ned. Glad my golf instruction tips have helped your game.

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Greg

I’m Back, Herman! After Taking many lessons without improvement, I came back to your site. I thought about setting the right wrist back on itself in the backswing, turning my right hip inside toward the target, & on the downswing “Covering” the ball with my right palm. Wow!!! Much more distance, solid contact, compression, & accuracy! Am I on the right track? Thanks!

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Herman Williams

Hey Greg. Welcome back … your description sounds perfect. Glad you’re seeing good results already. – Herman

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solly

excellent lesson with immediate results. thanks very much.

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Herman Williams

Glad to hear this helped your swing.

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DennisV

Hi Herman,
This video, especially the part about lag, has helped my swing a great deal – thanks! My biggest problem now is greenside bunkers. Do you change any of these right wrist concepts for shots out of a bunker? Thanks again!

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Herman Williams

In the bunker it won’t be exactly the same as we are willing to let the face get more open going back. i like to go ahead and let it fan open slightly and hinge behind me on a somewhat flat plane. This allows a nice shallow skimming on the forward swing with the face held open throughout. Should feel like the heel of the club enters the sand first. Hope this helps. – Herman

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DennisV

Thanks for the helpful response. I get most of what you are saying, but just to clarify when you say “fan open” do you mean allowing the wrists to rotate a bit more so that the right palm is facing more towards the sky? Also when you say “swing with the face held open”, does this mean keeping the right palm facing up, rather than down, into impact? This would make another great video topic! Thanks again for your help.

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Herman Williams

Yes and yes … right palm up throughout the shot. :) (The only time this would not hold true is when you are using an ultra weak right hand grip with a preset open face.)

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krsitjansson elias

Hi, Herman
Thanks for this video which is the best tips I ever had in my golf live. About just dropping the shoulder/arm at the beginning of the forward swing and stay is brilliant for me. I am playing my best golf after this video.
Thanks.! Herman.

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Herman Williams

Glad to hear it … thanks for stopping by and commenting. – Herman

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van solomonian

I like this right wrist video. I’ve been trying it and pull hook the woods. Is that because of poor weight shift in the downswing – hanging back?

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Herman Williams

Assuming you haven’t overdone something that causes the face to be too closed in the backswing it is likely you are casting on the downswing. This unloads the wrist cock too soon and causes the face to close too soon coming down. Look for ways to delay this by holding more lag, shifting targetward and/or clearing the hips faster.

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Thomas Tsai

Great video. Have had golf instructors tell me to start the swing by activating the hinge of wrists first which sets the club — then all you have to do is turn. The one piece take away I have been told requires much more timing and athletic ability. You are advocating just the opposite—very confusing to me. Also the downswing only takes a few seconds—how can one practice all the correct positions and swing thoughts and know you are getting them correct???

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Herman Williams

Hi Thomas. This is a lengthy video in terms of describing the number of things going on in the swing. Also as we are humans and not machines, we need to remain flexible in how we apply things as there will often be more than one way to do it, and each way may be pretty successful for certain people. I recommend trying to look at the list and pick one thing you are not currently doing well and start in on training that part. Begin with slow motion swings, practice swings with no ball and hopefully a mirror. Work on 4 live shots at a time and then go back into your slow motion work. Realize that you may not hit satisfactory shots from just changing one piece. You will need to give it sufficient time and repetition to start becoming a habit before moving on to the next item in your list. Note that each time you add a layer, the ball may react in a new way that may even be unsatisfactory. Try to stay the course and build in layers until you have all the components mentioned in the sequence. At the end of your work, you should see fairly positive ball-striking results. Good luck. – Herman

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Evan Tiffany

This series of videos is possibly the best I have yet to come across. I have been struggling for quite a while with lag and taking a divot in front of the ball. Your video series has helped more than anything else I’ve come across. Question: I live in Vancouver, BC where the only practice facilities within an hour of the city (other than the exclusive members only clubs) use artificial mats year-round. Do you have any tips on how to get accurate feedback regarding one’s contact-point, since (obviously) one cannot take a divot on a mat? Since the mats have a tendency to make even fat shots look good, I often worry that by practicing on them I may be doing more harm than good to my game.

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Herman Williams

Thanks, Evan. I don’t have any real magic secrets for practicing on mats. You are right about their forgiveness, but they can still be beneficial for training as long as your contact is “ball first.” A couple of things I look for are as follows: If the mats are slightly damp in the morning it’s pretty easy to tell where the club is scuffing the surface. Look for the majority of the scuff to be past where you have the ball located. You can even use the edge of your shoe to draw a perpendicular line where the ball would be and visualize striking the mat past the line in practice swings. Also listen closely for the sound of your shots and learn to sense the feel as well. You will get a little more of a “click” when the contact is ball first versus a thud when it’s just the mat. And start noticing the feel of the really good shots … the ball feels lighter and softer. Good luck. – Herman

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Andrew Leitch

Herman I still struggle with holding the wrist position on the downswing. Should I be using the muscles in my wrists to prevent the clubhead from getting ahead? Or do I move the rest of my body in such a way as to prevent the clubhead from gathering enough momentum in the first place?

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Herman Williams

I would do both. Push out with left hand, pull in with the right and use a flowing sequence of movement to have the body “outrun” the clubhead.

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Andrew Leitch

Herman thank you for your elegant answer. I haven’t made it to the course yet but I felt it in my first practice swing. This is going to help me a lot.

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brandon

Not sure why we care that you are a nurse.

Respectfully,
Brandon, garbage man

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Tfraser

OK,but did you try pressing down on you right foot at the top of your backswing to facilitate the best rotation of your hip during the downswing?

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Thomas Fraser

Hi Herman ,
I find your golf instructions for setting up and achieving the preferred backswing is excellent and concise. However; I do have trouble with all the swing thoughts you give while executing the downswing. As you know the downswing can be clocked in milliseconds which makes it impossible for the mind to remember everything you said and demonstrated in the video about the downswing . For example; the mind at the top of the perfect backswing might think: “Do I shift my weight first to the left or drop my right arm? Umm, was I told to rotate my hips as well?” My point is this; in the video you correctly described exactly what the body does during a perfectly executed downswing but may have mentioned way too many swing thoughts for the average player to remember. I wrote to you before that my one downward swing thought is simply pressing down on my right foot. As an RN by profession I know this action anatomically allows my hips to clear and my right arm to drop automatically which, as you have said, is essential in completing the full forward swing.
In your last reply to me you referred me To Jimmy Ballard. I looked him up. A friend of his, once ask him to write a book about executing the perfect downswing. He quip: “That would be one short book!” You told me that there are many ways to think about doing the same thing. I was hoping you will try my way with regards to the downward swing and let me know what you think about it; good or bad.

Respectfully submitted ,
Thomas Fraser RN

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Herman Williams

Thomas,
Thanks for commenting. You are correct that I have mentioned several ideas in this video. My intent was not to provide a quick single tip for how to make a swing but rather a very thorough description of that entire movement. Most of the complaints I get about golf instruction in general is that it is not thorough enough and that the player does not know why he is being asked to make a certain movement. Particularly in private lessons, I prefer to give a very detailed analysis of the movement in question along with cause and effect descriptions. And I will likely list several changes that need to be made. However, it will be the player’s responsibility to work through that list one item at a time … master a piece and then move to the next. It is never our intent to be multitasking over several ideas at once. But with no knowledge of the whole puzzle most golfers are reluctant to fully “buy in” to making each change one at a time. The “right foot push off” will certainly be a helpful idea for some of our audience.

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todd

Hi Herman,

I have applied this move for years since reading Cotton, Armour, and the lovely book “Live Hands”. However, I have never been able to produce a nice little draw with this grip. I loose the ball sometimes right, but never left. Can I draw the ball with this grip without hitting a “pull draw”?

Thanks much

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Herman Williams

Hi Todd, Those were great authors and players. I grew up reading Tommy Armour from a book my grandfather had. I think you could draw the ball but ideally you need a swing path that allows for a “push draw” by swinging from the inside while making a fairly strong overhanded release of the face. This is a cool ball flight to achieve but not always worth the effort if you already have a reliable move. Good luck – Herman

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Terry

Thanks Herman, the way I used to hit it 50 years ago and got away from. Great to get back to this great way of hitting the ball after going through several swing changes.

Terry

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CJ Haws

Hi Herman,

Thanks for the great tips above. I play golf right handed but I play basketball, soccer, etc left-footed/handed. So, my strong had has always been my left. I’m a scratch golfer but my misses that I always fight is the dreaded “hook” or I’d like to call “snipe-hook” :) I’ve worked hard on trying to neutralize my (left grip) but still struggle hitting it left. It also effects my contact as well, since it feels like I’m holding on so the shots are thin.

Above you mentioned on the right hand the feeling of the knuckle almost covering the “V” and to start the swing with the right shoulder blade? I’ve been used to pushing the club back with my left shoulder (right handed golfer). So, any suggestions on getting rid of that dreaded hook would be great.

Thanks and keep up the great work:)

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Herman Williams

CJ, if you had video at impact it’s likely your clubhead has passed the hands and the toe is closing. If you can maintain a weak right hand grip and work at getting the butt of club past the ball before the strike, you should eliminate the hook.

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CJ Haws

Hi Herman,

Thank you so much for your fundamental advice, it really helps. One thing I really struggle with are hooks and shots going left that usually start on line. I pay golf right handed but I’m left side dominant. I pay basketball left-handed and so forth so I feel like I really flip the ball at times or hold on to keep it straight.

So, I love your post above cause I want to be able to release the club more but a little confused on where the right is exactly? Am I really covering that left hand to where my right index finger is almost on top as well? I’m a scratch golfer and would love to get that dreaded hook.

Thanks sooooo much!

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Herman Williams

Short answer is … yes. But see my other comment on impact position.

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Doc

Herman, Thank you for more yardage and flat out stinger shots, after watching your right wrist video I had to go down one club! You can feel the club snap at impact and it makes a sound I have becer heard before. Can you use this grip with a driver?

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Herman Williams

Sure. Obviously the driver ball position should be farther forward. As a result you will not try to keep the shaft leaning forward so much into the ball like you do with an iron.

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Oliver Williams

Very lucid explanations of common swing problems. Can”t wait to try
the shank solution. keep up the good work!

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williamtipton

Geez.
I could have used this a year and a half ago when I started playing.
I was watching a guy driving 350yard+ drives the other day.
Actually witnessed him get on in two an a 522 yard par 5. His second shot was 175yard or so….and he hits it with a pitching wedge….a pitching wedge for crying out loud.
I finally watched him swing from the front and realized he was doing what this video talks about with the right wrist. I tried it on my next swing and got the best 6 iron shot ever. I should have been short with the 6iron but instead put it danged near off the back, so I definitely got about 20-30 more yards than I generally have been just adding in this right hand thing.

Ive been wondering where the distance has been. This part of the golf swing seems to be well guarded secret or something. Ive talked to a LOT of instructors and really good golfers and they just say ‘practice’ or something vague that really is no help.

This is a VERY good video and article. Thanks for putting it up.

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GAJF

Nobody hits a PW 175 yards…

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Herman Williams

It seems unbelievable but here’s a link to a golf outing Jamie put on in the Fall of 2013 warming up with wedges from 165 – 180 yards. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZdSXkcjIYU

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Michael

Thanks so much for the instruction Herman, love your explanations. Been trying to get this right for almost a year and sadly have learned to hate the game. I’m 41, been playing golf about 20 yrs and my handicap WAS abt 9 (from the whites). I tend to cast the club, but I hit it pretty straight so I shoot decent scores in spite. Been trying to get a more powerful swing and the result is the “shankapottamus” I get a decent lag now in my swing but really struggle with releasing the club and getting the club stuck behind me. I’m almost scared to swing and ready to put the clubs back in the attic. What do you recommend?

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Herman Williams

Michael look at Part 3 in my shanking video and article. You will need to get the lead wrist bowing into impact with the knuckles of that hand turning down. Also the new lag probably has your trailing elbow digging into your ribs more than the past and may also require a little more elbow room than your old swing. It might help to bow over and reach a little more than old swing. basically it’s easy to get lag with the arms too far away from the body, but we have to keep them crammed up against us as long as possible.

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Jeremy F.

Hi Herman,

I love your videos. Are you familiar with the one-plane swing from the Jim Hardy book series on golf planes. I’ve tried to incorporate your tips in my swing but because i’m a one-planer i can never get the club up to the dish-tray level. Tiger is a one-planer and does it, but I mean he’s Tiger. When I try the dish tray thing it brings my body off the ball and my weight gets stuck on the back foot. But if I bring it closer to a 45 degree angle i can hit more consistent shots but I can’t get the lag that you describe. How should a one-planer go about creating lag?

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Herman Williams

As long as the wrist is bent in the dish-tray style you’ll be fine. The steepness of the shoulders for a one-planer makes the dishes likely to spill, but it’s more of an idea than a literal reality. In a simplified description, the one-planer really depends on getting the face mildly closed in the backswing and then leaving the arms pinned behind him while turning the body aggressively thru the shot. The lag is not as much at the wrist and elbow but more from leaving the arms behind the body while the body turn generates the speed and delivery. The release is much less pronounced for a one-planer as well … kind of “swing left and hang on” depending on the strength of the grip.

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Darren

Hi Herman,

Love the video came across it while researching right elbow positioning in backswing. Would you agree that by having the neutral right handed grip and keeping the right elbow pointed down at the top that this automatically gets the right wrist into waiters tray position without having to think about it? I notice when I try to really dorsiflex the wrist at the top that the results can be very good with more lag and greater distance. Or is to much to think about?
Thanks Darren

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Herman Williams

Thanks Darren. I’ll jokingly tell you after watching golfers do this stuff for over 25 years, there is almost nothing natural about any of it. I would say most people would have the elbow down and might still have to concentrate on making the wrist bend back into the waiters position. Take nothing for granted until it’s been trained long enough to be an automatic habit, and don’t worry that you have to consciously do something that might seem really natural for others. Tour Players have a hard time communicating what they do for this reason. They’ve done it so long they overlook some parts and other parts are so automatic they have forgotten what they feel like.

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Aussie Pete

G’day Herman,
I’m finding your instruction videos simply awsome .. you’re a champion!!!
Can I get your take on this scenario, Herman .. .. I’m a lefty, but right hand dominant .. I slice. I fear that my dominant hand is too powerful for my left hand to release upon?? Do you know of others with a similar problem?
Regards – Pete (Melbourne)

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Herman Williams

Absolutely. When the dominant hand is the lead hand such as yours you will need to train that arm in isolation for a few seconds before each shot to help it feel the proper rotation to create the release move. Simply hold the club in your right hand with the clubhead on the ground in a setup position. Make a very small backswing of only 2 or 3 feet, then bring the club forward at about the speed of a greenside chip. As you near impact, make sure to scuff the turf as you turn the forearm and clubface a full 90 degrees so the toe of club points to target within just a foot or two past the ball location. You are basically trying to retrain the urge to dominate the swing with that arm using a pulling force and instead teach it how to apply an equal amount of rotation force. To fix a big slice I would try to get the back of the hand turning quick enough to face the right thigh before swinging on to the target. Try it for 10 seconds or so and then step up to play the shot. It will usually hook after doing the drill. Once you have a good feel for it you can gradually back off on the exaggeration. Good luck. – Herman

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Mike Borg

I found yours website looking for answers for the wrist and hands in the swing. I studied your left wrist video and went out and practiced. In one session I know I picked up yards and good ball flight. Just looked at the right wrist video and will go and practice that. Made change on grip from strong to weak and did not interlock fingers. Like that change. Now if I can just get off the right side everytime things may get right. If I can now get the feel of keeping my wrist cocked and then releasing them that would be awsome,

I use to be a 3 in college but I don’t know if I ever really new what my wrist was suppose to be doing in the swing. I am 64 now and look forward to continuing to learn.

THANKS!

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Shelly

Hi Herman,
I am a 51 year old female that started the game of golf a year ago. My brothers all told me I was crazy to attempt to learn to play golf at 50. I ignored them and took lessons all last summer. As you can imagine I struggled mightily all last season but have been bitten by the golf bug. I live in Northern Michigan so haven’t been on a course in months. I do however have a net in the garage and have been working on my swing over the winter. Just last week my husband suggested I should work on hitting down on the ball. After much reserach on the internet I discovered I needed to get lag into my swing which would result in ball compression. This is when I found your incredible videos. After reviewing several I discovered I wasn’t doing anything close to what you were describing. I have been in the garage working like a crazy person trying to incorporate the movements you describe in this video into my swing and am starting to see results. Of course I don’t get it right too often yet but when I do it is such a beautiful thing. As you indicated, attempting this is not for the timid but I refuse to be beaten by the little white ball and hopefully will prevail to some extent one day. I never could have begun the process without your help. Thanks so much for such a detailed, easy to understand explanation for such a complicated maneuver. I have definitely been Hermanized and will hopefully one day make you proud.

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Herman Williams

Shelly, that’s awesome. Your story is one reason i love doing this stuff. Hang in there and keep us all posted on how you’re doing. Glad to have you in the “Hermanized” flock. Can’t wait for your brothers to start shelling out when they’re losing bets to you on the course. – Herman

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Ron

Hi Herman, This “right wrist action” lesson is the best explanation of grip and wrist action I have ever seen (and I’m 62!) I had been struggling with my right hand grip being to strong, and becoming disconnected at the top etc. – never knowing for sure what to do. By making my right hand grip weaker, it fits perfectly, feels comfortable, I know it’s correct now so that give me confidence and allows better hinging for more lag. So thank you!
I also really liked your explanation of the transition. I think Ben Hogans actual “secret” is that I think he said his backswing was not finished until he made the transition to the left side. His club is still going backwards another inch as after he transitions his weight – right?

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Herman Williams

Ron, you are exactly right. Good luck as you continue perfecting these moves. – Herman

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Greg Hill

When does the right elbow straighten, Herman? Just before or after impact? Thanks!

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Herman Williams

After impact.

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Doug

Hi Heman,
I love your videos. I think your the best YouTube coach. Great work
I really have put in a LOT of work. I’m getting frustrated as I can not get the first move in the transition of holding back my chest as weight goes forward. I continually turn my upper body with my hips at the same time or I fall forward with my shoulders.
I have a rotary style of swing and very connected with upper arms to my body. I’m a 9 handicap but inconsistent.
I also can’t get my right elbow anywhere near my right hip. Could you kindly do a video that covers more of this
Should my arms fall passively on the start of downswing or do I help them. Is there another feel that may help.

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Herman Williams

You may want to look a little closer at the rotary style and make sure all the elemnets you’re working on fit together. I’ll definitely try to do a video on it. Until then you may be more successful by getting the armswing deeper behind you in the backswing. Then on the downswing you want the right elbow to drop behind your right hip and just ride the rotation of your body to impact. That arm drop probably needs to be active and intentional. Arms will still be pinned to your chest as you turn, but at the same time you are forcing the arms to drop as they ride your chest down.

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rodney

Hey Herman, great stuff! However, I still need some help. Sometimes I get a bit confused about the Right wrist hinge. Should the heel of the right hand be facing down and pushing down towards ground at beginning of wrist hinge (with forearm facing skyward) or heel facing away from body forearm facing parallel. I tend to close the club face off at impact and take a substantial divot at times.

Thanks for the clarification.

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Herman Williams

If we’re talking about downswing, I’d say the heel faces out from body and slightly downward too. It’s at a bout a 45-degree angle … not quite facing completely down at the ground.

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Greg Hill

Herman: Thanks For All Your Help With Our Golf Swings! I Was Working On My Swing, Today, & Realized My Hands Were Coming Apart & My Right Elbow Was Flying Outward At The Beginning Of My Backswing. I Tried To Fold My Right Elbow Inward, Immediately, On The Backswing & This Seemed To Put Me On The Correct Plane On The Backswing & Kept My Right Elbow In Tight To My Body On The Downswing. Started Hitting The Ball Very Crisply. Is This OK For Me To Immediately Fold My Right Elbow? I Know My Swing May Not Be As Wide This Way, But It Seems A Lot More Consistent. Thanks!

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Herman Williams

I think that should be fine based on the results you are seeing. If it repeats and creates good ball flight, go with it.

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Steve Betts

Hi Herman,
Very interested to see your video. This ties in with a book I have been reading by Joe Dante, which you may have heard about (4 magic moves in golf). Joe also advocates a backward bend of the right wrist, the waiter position at the top with straight left wrist, a lateral move left on the downswing and a late hit.
You are the only other person I have come across who teaches this way. This makes a lot of sense to me because the position of the club at the top is square and you dont have to think about squaring the clubface on the downswing. Also when you make a first lateral move to the left on the downswing the club automatically drops down into a late hit position and you can then swing as hard as you like through the ball. Thanks.
Steve Betts, Cambridge UK

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Herman Williams

Thanks Steve. You gave an excellent description of what’s going on.

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CK

Hey Herman!
I subscribe to your channel and love your video’s! You, sir, are AWESOME! Such a great teacher! Thank you for the time you spend on this!
As for me, I thought I had a decent game with some unique amateur issues…that is until I started watching your instruction! Now I realize I had a crappy game with common issues! lol :-) BUT, since applying several of your techniques…man, I am MUCH better! I feel like I owe you money!!!
I used to crush the driver, but couldnt tell you where it was going to land. Now, I annialate it with pretty decent accuracy! And my long irons…the only good shots I hit came when I had to go 90 degrees left! Serious hooker! But Now, since listening and watching you, I smoked my 3 iron 225 down the pipe twice yesterday to be on in 2 (par 5′s)!!! I’m hitting my 5 200ish. I didnt change much on my short irons or wedges because they were (eh) ok, but I know where to go if that ever changes!!
If I could figure out this putter, I would be a force to be reckoned with! Any chance you can fix that for me too? Again, Thank You! Keep up the great work!

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Herman Williams

CK, glad you’ve seen the light. I loved your description of your game; it’s funny how many people find out their good shots were mostly luck all those years. :) Glad you’re getting on the right track and thanks for the compliments.

Herman

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CK

Herman,
Any chance you have some instruction on reading greens? I have pretty decent speed and feel, but I know I am not reading the breaks well. Any useful tip would be great!
Thanks again for all the swing instruction. You have definitely helped me, and now my wife is watching and practicing too! I’m pretty sure I owe you $$….she wants me to take her golfing more and more… Like I needed another excuse! Ha :-) You da man!
CK

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anonymous

Herman,
I am signing in as anonymous just in case my betting partners do a search on my name and find my game changing tip that I got from your video. . We just played C Cat at Orange County National, a tough track to say the least. I hit 16 fairways and 16 greens and won a bunch of cash. The tip of you explaining of keeping the hand facing away on the downswing has changed everything for me. I had gotten into the bad habit of turning my right hand and wrist underneath to start the downswing and the results were either blocked shots or flipped hooks. This has been going on for years and countless lessons and turmoil. I saw your video right before I went out at Orange County National and the hit the range 2 hours before tee time and I just crushed the ball on the range working on the hand facing away as I started the downswing. I took the swing on the course and the confidence in the swing just got stronger and stronger. I have been out 6 times on the range after the round and validated my swing every time. I am just ripping the ball, feeling more on top of the ball and there are no more blocks and flip hooks. I am sorry I cannot give you kudos to my buddies as they are dog eat dog bunch and I need every advantage I can get. Thanks again. Anonymous and back enjoying the game.

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Herman Williams

I love it. You keep taking their cash; we’ll keep it our secret. :)

Herman

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Brian Harley

Hi Herman,
Just wanted to say I think your video golf lessons are great I have definitely been Hermanized.
thanks
Brian UK

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Herman Williams

Thanks, Brian … glad to have you on board. Good luck in the New Year.

Herman

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Marcus Brinkley

Herman I real like your video tip. I have problem coming over the top think this might help me.

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Andrew Morgan

Hi Herman,
Excellent article.
Can you advise how close the right hand should be to the thigh when club parallel to ground? Also, how straight should the right arm be at the same position in downswing?
Thanks!

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Herman Williams

Right hand is probably 4-6″ or so from right leg, but the right forearm/elbow will be completely against the body in the downswing. Right arm will still have a lot of flex left at the elbow, sometimes almost 90 degrees. This is possible only by lowering the right shoulder as if dropping into a sidearm throwing position similar to skipping a rock across a pond. Good luck. Hope this helps. Herman

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Andrew Morgan

Thanks Herman,
Is the idea with the heel of right hand hitting thigh on downswing to get the hands back to the same position they were at address when looking DTL. That is, the same distance from the body that they were at address. Is such a hand position a good one to strive for at impact? Cheers, Andrew

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Herman Williams

Andrew, that’s a great way to look at it, but it is meant to be an exaggeration to prevent other problems from occurring. Centrifugal force tends to drive the hands outward away from the body and we instinctively pull back and uncock the wrists as well. Definitely try to do what you described with the heel of the hand, but in the real world the hands will actually arrive at impact a little higher than where they started out and probably a little farther from your body. Thanks for stopping by. – Herman

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Mark

Work on the grip and setup along with this tip……. pleasantly surprised with the ease and comfort of the grip and the setup is easy to work in. This right hand tip…..all I can say is Wow !!! Big difference…. Crisp iron shots and hit about 5 drives….flew a couple almost past where my normal drives finish.
Good stuff, Herman…..
Thanks,
The Hermanator

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Erik

Hi Herman,
This is Erik all the way from the Netherlands. I want to compliment you with your online lessons. I have seen many pro’s on the net with quick fixed video lessons telling us how it should be done, but not one is getting close to you. Your detailed lessons are helping me getting better but also enjoying the game more and more. Your lesson on over the top is an eye opener for me and helps me understand (finally) to fix this problem.

Thanks and keep on going bringing those great tips and lessons.
Erik (The Netherlands)

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Herman Williams

Thanks Erik. I’ll be working on some new videos now that we are finally entering the winter off-season and I get a little more time to devote to the online instruction.

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Richard G

I have been working on your lesson now for about two weeks and just couldn’t get comfortable with what my right side was doing on the downswing and through impact. The comment to another on your link about imagining painting a line on a wall behind yourself with your right hand on the down swing did the trick. thanks Herman

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Herman Williams

Glad you found that tip. It has worked for many others in my private lessons.

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philip baddeley

At the range yesterday, tried your neutral grip, keeping left wrist flat and making sure right forearm rotates through impact. I used all my wedges, 7 iron and driver. It was a windy day so direction was difficult but the contact of the face on the wall was different from anything I have felt before – and more distance !
Excellent videos, clearly explained, – this could have changed my game forever !
(17 handicap – Lancaster UK)
Many thanks

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Herman Williams

Glad to hear it. Sounds like you’ve been Hermanized. :)

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JP

Hi Mike,
If I have a stronger left hand grip is there a proper place for that knuckle on the grip or does it still go on top? Also if you have a strong grip and a slightly cupped position on the top will the knuckles down help or hurt to square the face at impact?

Thanks,
JP

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Herman Williams

Strong left hand is ok, but unlikely to require anything different with the right hand. Go as described in video with right trigger finger exposed and knuckle in view. (I assume that is what you meant.)

At impact you probably can’t afford to turn the knuckles down without hooking. Simply try to keep the hands pressed forward at impact out in front of the clubhead.

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Steve Potts

First class instruction. I have an offending right hand just like all baseball players. This video taught me what a well-behaved right hand does.

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Herman Williams

Thanks, Steve. Glad to help. – Herman

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Matt G

Thank you, been playing for a year thinking about ebaying the clubs. I took your advice and just hit 50 of the most sweet shots i have ever hit, looks like e bay will have to wait. Thanks dude, Matt, Suffolk, UK.

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Herman Williams

Glad you found us and avoided losing your game to Ebay. Keep it going. – Herman

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Richardwilfred

Thank you – for your clear description and honesty! Superb advice – you are a knowledgeable golfer and a great teacher!

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Mark E

Herman………good stuff! Watching your video’s has me Hermanized….. or call me a Hermanator. I have been around golf for a very long time and have seen or heard a lot of different instructors and instruction….. you have the gift of maybe the clearest instruction I have seen. Thanks!

Mark E from Tennessee

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Herman Williams

Thanks, Mark. I try to call it as I see it and give you guys the plainest possible way to understand and fix or build a golf swing. I’m glad you’ve found it helpful. Keep in touch. – Hermanator :)

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Markus

Hi Hermann,
might be your very german first name …..;-)

….but after 4.786.312 Golf videos, 286,145 books and 3.788 DVDs (at least it feels like that) and more than 2.000 $ in Pro Lessons (this is really true) YOU MADE IT and I now -for the first time ever- I know how the trailing wrist works, -and I am already a 18 hcp. after I started golf 2011 in April.
I always knew that my body was doing right but there was a missing link in my release, that stopped me from being more consistant and better.
I was so focused on the front wrist, because everybody is talking about, and here you tell anything thats important.
Had 120 balls on the range to get use to this “new” wrist motion, went out on our 9 hole course, shot a 4 over par and was so excited that I also played our 18 hole course with 11 over par (38 putts*argh*).

I just gained 1 club length and my drives are about 30 mtrs (40 yds) longer in total.

THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK YOUUUUUUUUU!!!!

I guess Germany is a little too far for lessons, right….;-)?!

Thx so much!!!

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Herman Williams

Markus, I loved your story. Thanks so much for the honest compliments and testimonial. – Herman

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Ron Remillard

Great video. I am trying to get back into golf after 20 years at age 62. Your three part video describes all of the problems I had 20 years ago. Thanks to you, I understand the mechanics of the swing a lot better. My challenge now is to execute, especially when I have a ball in front of me.

This video seems like a “part four” of the series. I can feel myself rushing my swing at the point of contact and flipping my wrists as I hit the ball throwing my weight onto my back leg often coming out of my stance and lifting my head just after contact. Video three’s recommendations on the left hand made a lot of sense to me, but this video will help me to control the longer clubs at the top where a lot of my problems begin.

Thank you. Your videos are by far the most clear and concise. I wish you would do some on chipping and pitching.

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Herman Williams

Thanks, Ron. Welcome back to the game after 20 years. I hope it keeps getting better.

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Ned

Nicely done! Hand position is so important and the way you completely convey how the hands should feel throughout the swing is an overlooked approach to teaching… your perspective reminds me of a great teacher I had as a kid who actually learned to teach from the great Tommy Armour (I). I had lost my way in terms of what my hands should be doing and where they should be but you’ve put my back on track. Thanks so much! One of these days I will have to take a trip to NC (live in Carlsbad, CA) and get a lesson from you.
Keep up the great work.
Ned

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Herman Williams

Thanks, Ned. I appreciate the compliment. I actually learned the swing as a 12-year old kid by reading Tommy Armour’s book, “How to Play the Best Golf of Your Life.” I would read a little bit and then run down the hill to beat balls for a few hours in the corner of our property trying to figure it all out. Funny how things come full circle. Thanks for reminding me. – Herman

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Rob

I very much enjoy your training, but I have some issues. I wish I could get you a swing video. The only way I can get my left wrist flat is to allow that separation of the right hand from the palm you warned against. It’s basically for a brief moment only in my fingers with my right hand and my right hand is yanking on the club to bring it back with a flat left wrist. Or as soon as I start my backswing I bow my left wrist horribly so that my watch is facing straight down. Does that make sense? Can you provide thoughts on this. That flat left wrist just feels so unnatural to me, it even hurts to get it In that position, as if it’s forced, well it is, lol. Shots are good and straight and it even feels as if I can create a bit of lag by allowing this separation from the palm. However I just feel confused on the takeaway altogether, I can’t seem to find any videos from top down of the hands during take away, is it a roll or a bow or a hing

I welcome your thoughts

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Herman Williams

I have to admit i don’t feel comfortable making a recommendation without seeing what is going on. But remember the “flat left wrist” is not the main fundamental in this whole conversation. A square clubface with the leading edge aligned with the left forearm is the primary objective. It just so happens that for most people this works out best when the wrist is flat. So i would go back and double-check clubface position in a mirror at top of swing and also double-check grip to determine if you need to fight so hard to get a flat wrist.

Generally, separation of the hands leads to inconsistency in clubface position in transition and downswing resulting in wild shots. If you are not having a problem, it may be wise to avoid fixing “what ain’t broke” unless you see a big upside payoff to the change. Good luck. – Herman

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John T

I’ve noticed that turning my right palm down almost facing the ground on the start of the downswing allows me to hit down on the ball especially with my short irons. Also it seems to allow me create a square clubface early in the downswing. Although turning the right palm down seems counter intuitive it feels like im going to hit a big hook amazingly the clubface
gets squared up. I was having problems slicing prior to this. My right palm was more facing up previously. So my question is i dont feel like i have to rotate my forearms much from my early downswing into impact. And i do feel like the right hand is pushing down.
My question is does it sound like i am overdoing the palm down feel? It feels like a strange new move however it seems to have greatly reduced my slice issues.

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Herman Williams

I think the golf ball is telling you everything you need to know here. Feels weird ’cause you’ve never done it, but it has to be getting clubface into position better than your old move. If you do finally begin to hook it, then start trying to create more lag and delay the feeling of the “turn down.”

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lou

Thanks so much for the video. It confirmed much of what I thought and had been trying, but was unable to find any supporting information. Your explanation clearly cleaned up some of the choices in hand positions which I was not 100% certain of.

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Vimal

Also, I start feeling like I am compressing the ball fully. But, is it also good for driver because u r not compressing ball but hitting in upswing? Please let me know if this works for driver too.
Thanks.

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Herman Williams

Yes, it works for drivers too. Ball position is obviously different, so you are not hitting down. And hands will not stay in front of club but more likely will be even with the shaft at impact.

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Vimal

I have got all what u have explained so nicely in your video as far as right palm and hand in concerned. It works well. However, I think u have to agree with me that in downswing u have to lift your right heel and push right knee toward target before dropping right hand or palm towards right thigh. Rest will follow byitself. I hope I am right. Otherwise, u will be hanging on back foot and there will not be any weight shift. Rest is as good as u said. Let me know your opinion please.
Thanks a million. U r the best.

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Herman Williams

Vimal, the move you describe pushing off right instep is fine. Try to do it simultaneously with the drop of the arms. Thanks for commenting and following my articles and videos. – Herman

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Dave

Great video. Very detailed and informative. I think I am overdoing the drop down and club lag as I end up with a severe slice being unable to square the club head. Im thinking that you have overemphasized the drop down/lag to make the point for the video? Concentrating on swinging inside out and not overdoing the lag helps a lot.

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Herman Williams

We’re definitely “overemphasizing” lag in this video expecting the audience for this information to be short-hitting casters with no lag. It is certainly possible to have more lag than you can live with and fail to square up the club or create a lot of work for yourself trying to do it. Pick your battles carefully in this sport. But if your right hand grip is good and right palm is facing somewhat downward prior to impact you should not have too much trouble hitting the ball squarely. Good luck and thanks for commenting.

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Ken

As i stated with the new grip and flat wrist at top of swing i’m hitting my driver the furthest i have hit it in 20 years of playing. It just feels like it allows you to ready smack it hard and square
Ken

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Steve Evans

I’m off to the range to put it all together, and I’m changing my grip from interlocking to overlapping. Interlocking grip seems to freeze my forearms and make them more tense somehow, the fingers on my right hand are sore, and I have to force my right hand into position on top of the club to get the “V” to point up straight. Now, that can’t be natural.
I’ve also been having trouble getting the right hand in the tray position, the club slips down betwenne thumb and forefinger, no doubt due to my bad grip and lack of forefinger pressure.
Doing it all right is very challenging, but I’ll get there is I just take my time and keep trying.
Thanks for your tremendous work!

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Herman Williams

Great self-analysis. Good luck with the changes.

Herman

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Steve Evans

Well, I thought moving to an overlapping grip would need time to improve my shots, before I was blocking and push slicing, now I’m hitting the ball left of center to center already and its easier to get that right hand on top.
I think the interlocking grip was an obstacle to releasing because it bonded the hands together too tightly.
Still some tweaking to do, but I’ll get there sooner or later.

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Troy Vayanos

Great video Herman,

I have been struggling a bit with pulling the golf ball and coming over the top. Will working on the right palm facing the sky ‘waiters position’ help with overcoming this problem?

Cheers

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Herman Williams

Thanks for stopping by Troy … I like your website. This waiters tray won’t necessarily help unless you can feel like you drop the tray straight down (right palm moving toward right hip) on the downswing and then “cover” the ball with it. David Leadbetter once said to imagine holding a pizza at the top and then splatting it on top of the ball at impact. Good luck. – Herman

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Mike

Hi Herman,

Thanks for the great video as always. The action of the right wrist is something I have been studying in great detail recently. I am a mid-handicapper who has always struggled mightily with an early release. I tend to scoop balls clean off the turf and feel like I have no distance control whatsoever. I KNOW that I need to maintain the lag, but it seems like every time I try to hold off the release until my hands are past the ball, I end up shanking it. I believe this may be due to my right hand “flipping” outward at impact so that my palm is facing the target, rather than the ground, effectively bringing the hosel of the club to the ball. Does that make sense? Is there a drill / training aid that you might recommend for such a problem?

Thanks as always, all my self-diagnoses and countless range sessions with no improvement are starting to wear on me…

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Herman Williams

Mike, your self-diagnosis sounds pretty accurate. With casting, almost always there is or was a problem with an open clubface lurking somewhere. The scoop/flip is a last-ditch effort at closing the face. So the best thing you can learn is how to have the back of your left hand and right palm already facing down as you approach the ball. Then the face is squared up early and shaft is leaning forward. It’s not always such a big deal to have a maximum amount of lag, just a leaning shaft. Picture a long chip shot with the ball off your back foot and how you should strike it with the shaft leaning forward to keep it low and running. Create the same feel on your way to impact with a full swing, and you’ve got it. Here are 3 checkpoints for right hand.
1) Just past right thigh in takeaway right wrist should be bending back so palm is facing mostly down toward ground. Clubface will look and feel closed.
2) At top of backswing right palm will appear to face away from you to the right like waving to someone off your right shoulder.
3) At waist-high on downswing wrists are still fully bent back but right palm is largely facing the ground again with clubface in slightly closed appearance. Now you only have to finish driving your hands forward and turning the hips to get to impact.

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Ken

Herman,

I just started watching your videos and after many years and many different swings, i think you explain it perfectly. I know focused on the flat left wrist and was always an over the top player. I was still able to shoot low 80′s at times, but was very inconsistant. I could never get the club to come from the inside. i think using your swing thought of laying the club on a table behind you is really working for me. I also now feel what a real release thru the ball feels like, that flat left wrist helps so much at top of swing.
Thanks
ken

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Norm Holloway

sudeenly, I can’t get your tube videos. best explaination of golf swing I have seen, period. clears up a lot of misunderstandings

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MAL MILLR

CAN YOU APPLY THE SAME TECHNIQUES TO A DRIVER OR A WOOD OFF THE FAIRWAY. I DON’T HIT THE BALL VERY FAR NOW (AGE) AND ANY
HELP FROM YOU WOULD BE MOST APPRECIATED.

THANKS

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MAL MILLER

GREAT VIDEO AND THANKS. CAN THIS SAME METHOD BE
USED FOR A DRIVER OR FAIRWAY WOODS?

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Herman Williams

Absolutely … just be sure your ball position is good.

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Jared Fawson

One of the best golf instruction videos period. Went and played yesterday with the grip, and while it was different for me, I could really see how it would benefit my game. I appreciate all the time put into this video and how well you know the swing. This was an aspect I knew I needed help with and really feel like I got it here. My one question is on the downswing when you are going from having the right under the club at the top to on top of the club at waist down, how do you maintain the lag? I worked on this for a while and couldn’t really get it. I could feel the pressure of the trigger but was having a hard time maintaining the angle. Thanks.

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Herman Williams

Imagine your right hand painting a stripe down a wall with your palm facing the wall to your right in the downswing. Just keep your wrist bent back, fingertips to the sky.

Then go look at this article and video http://www.hermanwilliamsgolf.com/golf-lag-stop-casting-lag-like-tiger-woods/. Good luck. – Herman

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Tom Ceglarek

Nice tip – painting a stripe down a wall. I would tend to get the back of my upper arm into my side on the downswing, which would have my right palm facing up to much when i was coming into the ball. Anyway it helped me quite a bit. Thanks

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David Maggs

Herman:
Thank you for your videos.You have helped me in understanding the golf swing.I do need clarification on the part swinging the arms has in the overall golf swing.

In the back swing the arms are swung to waist height. After this the upper body is used to complete the back swing and the arms are passive eccept for breaking the wrists.

The down swing starts with the lower body with the arms remaining passive.When does swinging the arms on the down swing start? Is at waist height or until just before the impact zone

Thank David Maggs

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Herman Williams

David,
Thanks for commenting and following the videos. Your description is pretty accurate, but I’m not necessarily passive at swinging the arms down in the downswing. Tour Players often fight being too aggressive with hands and arms, but most of my amateur clients are the reverse. They often need to be aggressive right at the start of downswing at pulling the handle down. Most of my amateur clients bring the chest around too fast which causes casting and over-the-top moves as well. So my answer depends on your style which I have not seen, but …

My typical suggestion is to get into a backswing position with an inward braced right leg, spine leaning away from target, full 90 degree shoulder turn and armswing slightly above right shoulder. Then keep your chest “closed” as you press into down into left foot and inward on right foot. Arms will be driving down aggressively toward right hip while maintaining full wrist hinge.

At this waist high position for the hands, you can really pour on the right side extension and release as hips and chest continue clearing.

Caveats: If you’re a somewhat upright arm swinger, then you must hold your chest back longer and “bump/slide” even more to the left with the hips as you forcefully drive the hands down toward right pants pocket.

If you are a flatter armswing player, you will have the club more behind you in the backswing and will probably be more over the ball with your pivot. As a result, you won’t need as much leftward shift. Simply push into the ground with your left foot and clear your whole body (hips and chest) evenly. Armswing can still be aggressive, since it is likely your stronger hips and legs will outrun the smaller muscles of your hands and arms.

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joe

left arm flying wedge/right arm flying wedge

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Les

Is this right hand movement also referred to as “laying off the club”?

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Herman Williams

Not necessarily. It can get more involved, but “laid off at top of backswing” describes a shaft position that points offline to the left of target toward third base for a right-handed golfer. Ideally if the shaft reaches “parallel” at the top of backswing, it should point directly at target.

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jeremy avila

herman,

i really enjoyed your youtube footage of the masters practice round. i couldnt emagine being at the masters. i watched johnny miller talk about the trigger finger on youtube. he references using that pressure and how john daly exaggerates the seperation of the pointer finger and the middle. its may be worth mentioning.

well great videos and let me know what other tour events you have on youtube

jeremy avila

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Herman Williams

Jeremy, thanks for checking in and thanks for watching my videos. I didn’t get to see all of Johnny’s presentation, but you’re right about Daly’s forefinger position on the club. His trigger is so exaggerated he’s almost touching the steel on the shaft. The Masters is an annual trip for me, but it’s tough with my schedule to get to other events to get video. So for now, everything I have out there on YouTube is from Augusta, but besides the practice footage there are a number of individual pro’s swings on my YouTube Channel.

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Derrick

Herman,
I liked this lesson and gave it a try at the range, it felt a little off but i’ve been giving it some time to adjust. The ones i did hit were all a slight draw when i did the turn the toe over feeling, when i hold off just a pinch it’s a high straight ball (beautiful). Taking it to the course Friday and will see how it looks, didn’t get to hit driver so no idea about that one yet.

How is the belly putter treating you, we’ll discuss validity of it when you get back, enjoy the vacation!

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Herman Williams

Good luck … belly putter was awesome. Thanks for checking in. – Herman

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Brent

Herman,

Great lesson. But I am struggling with the hammering nail concept. When I think about hammering a nail, i think about straight back and forward but isn’t the right hand also going forward?

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Herman Williams

the picture I want for you is to imagine driving a nail somewhat sidearmed as if you were driving a finishing nail in the baseboard or shoe moulding at the base of a wall.

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Jon Skowvron

Herman,
I like your points but they conflict with your three videos on “Get more distance”. I like the stronger grip, it feels better for me. Should I just stick with it?

Thanks, Jon Skowvron

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Herman Williams

Hey Jon, look a little closer. In both video series we allow for a “strong” left hand. It’s only the right we’re willing to make weaker. The weaker right actually allows you to hinge more by bending in the “dorsiflexion” (back bending) direction. Now just keep it bent back and palm facing down on downswing and you’re in the most powerful possible position. Generally the only time this fails is when a player adopts the weaker right hand but fails to get in the “tray of dishes” position at the top. If you’ve already found success, I wouldn’t worry much. But if you think something is lacking in terms of lag and compression at impact, then give this technique a look.

Ultimately, though you bring up a valuable point. The content I produce is for a wide audience. You guys likely can’t try every training tip I produce. I try to put out pretty main stream stuff, but there is certainly more than one way to succeed at this great game. Just as age, talent and physique vary from player to player, so will the swings. Sample things that fit your style, and ignore those that don’t. Good luck. – Herman

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David Gover

Thanks Herman, as usual another great online lesson. Everything you put online is very practical. BTW you will be happy to know that I shot a 76 from the blue tees at Tobacco Road this weekend. Credit to you for getting my game to another level.

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Herman Williams

Nice playing … that’s a great score especially for winter golf and thanks for checking in to comment. – Herman

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Deva Kumar

Herman
Another great instruction!
This fits nicely into what we discussed in our last session – going to incorporate this into the practice session today.

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Herman Williams

Thanks, Deva. Good luck with your training … I’m still soaking up the sun in sunny South Florida, but I hope to see you soon. Herman

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Garry Nolan

Herman, brilliant video, easy to understand, although I’m interested in your advice on the implementation of the concepts you cover in this one. ie. is it best to break each concept down and implement in a sequential fashion, until mastery (or reasonable mastery) or attempt to implement each into your swing at once and wear the pain of a multi-implementational approach!
I see the concepts to be implemented as: dorsiflexion, dropping club down with lateral move whilst maintaining the lag, and then the release. Working on trying to implement these together would be, as you say in the video “not for the faint hearted”. What is your advice on the best approach to implement these concepts, sequential or multi implementation approach.

Regards
Garry Nolan

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Herman Williams

Smart question. If I think my student is doing none of this correctly, I like to start with perfect grip, then the release. I actually don’t mind over-releasing and hooking. This plants the seeds to allow the drop with lag without blowing the shots dead right. But I must say if the tray of dishes at the top and palm-down position half way down are good, then slicing won’t be such a problem if you dive in and try it all at once.

Anyway, trying everything at once can be done if you’ll spend plenty of time with slow-motion reps and no ball to groove the pattern. Most players manage the grip and the drop but have a hard time getting the palm down and the over-handed release, thus leaving shots to the right.

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gord

Thanks again Herman,are you sure you don’t have a video of my swing….
because losing the grip at the top of the back swing sure sounds like me.
Hermanized again….It’s amazing…. watching 4 videos of your golf tips and it corrected years of frustration and not knowing how to correct them.
All the instructors,all the videos and all the hours and you summed it up in 4 videos…… and you have never seen my golf swing.
Thanks again….

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Herman Williams

My crystal ball is all seeing … :) Thanks for following my videos and commenting on the results. I’m glad to have you in the Hermanized camp.

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Alan Cox

This is really timely. I was just trying to explain the position of the right hand to my son this past week while we were hitting balls at the Golf Academy. Thanks.

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Herman Williams

Glad to help … keep him practicing. – Herman

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Mike Plummer

Hi Herman,
Great video and explained so well. I think many instructors do not relate to the recreational golfer’s physical ability. But you address it and give us a great path to follow. Can not wait to try this tomorrow. I am so glad I found your website!
Thanks!

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Herman Williams

What a great observation. You captured my intent perfectly. I really believe most of the published information you get in golf is explaining to you how a Tour Player is swinging and it’s often too generalized or too advanced.

The Tour Player is operating at a PhD level if we compared it to the education system or an Olympic caliber athlete when we compare to the sports world. The recreational amateur can certainly aspire to reach that level, but don’t start with coaching geared toward that level. Grammar school, then high school, then undergraduate and finally the PhD if you make it that far. Good luck and stay in touch. – Herman

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Mike Barnett

Follow up to my first comment. I went outside to practice swing a little bit with the things in mind from the video. I find that the trigger finger emphasis with V pointing at my chin makes me feel more tension or discomfort in the right thumb part of the hand. It feels uncomfortable. Do I need to just get used to it? It will go away in time. Do size of grips have anything to do with the comfort of doing it properly? I don’t have long fingers but I have a thick thenar eminence and large thumb. Thanks again. Wish you were in CT for live instruction.

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Herman Williams

Hey Mike, Glad you’ve been able to take advantage of a warmer than average Fall and Winter. I’m curious about the thumb situation. The weaker grip should have the thumb pad sitting off the left side of the handle with only half the pad touching the club. There should be almost no thumb pressure on the club, so it’s unusual to have any thumb problems. In fact Ben Hogan used to practice occasionally with his thumb and pinky finger pointed out in the air off the club to accent how the middle two fingers of the right hand gripped the club with the trigger applying pressure from the side. Just make sure the thumb is not doing any of the hitting and you should be ok. Smaller grips will make for more active hands and wrists if you think that will help.

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Mike Barnett

Kudos to you for the best explanation of where the left hand and trigger finger belong on the grip I have ever seen. I think I forget about the waiter tray position too often, resulting in early release that makes me hit the ground before the ball. I am a sweeper so perhaps the early wrist set and waiters tray position can help prevent it from happening. Can’t wait to apply this tomorrow. Yes, I am still playing up here in CT. Weather has been more golf friendly this year.

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Paul Ideson

Hello Mike,
I have had the same problem of early release and my grip being too tight at the top of the backswing. I get a powerful feeling with my driver on the way down so it works,but I am hitting my irons fat.

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